Also, on name-calling and the like ...

Dave Armstrong, who I respect immensely, noted that this often tends to detract from the otherwise civil tone of discussion on issues such as torture. I agree with this wholeheartedly and I've tried to make clear from the beginning that this is how these kinds of issues should be discussed.

Unfortunately, the type of hyperbole and invective that Mark is wont to hurl when discussing these types of issues combined with his love of triangulation often makes it extremely difficult to conduct them. I particularly refer to the accusations that we are on par with those who advocate abortion, euthanasia, etc.

Still, two wrongs do not make a right and I will try to do better in the future.